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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #366
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-
- Info-Hams Digest Sat, 2 Apr 94 Volume 94 : Issue 366
-
- Today's Topics:
- 73
- [News] Electricity, Leukemia Studied
- Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 31 March
- Obscenity on ham bands
- QSL Managers Wanted - 1994 ARRL DX Contest
- Source for RF Power MOSFETS (IRF511)
- Which HF rigs have Transverter Jacks?
-
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-
- Date: 1 Apr 94 12:49:21
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!hideg@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: 73
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Someone on here said that "saying 73 without the s sounds stupid."
-
- To me, '73' is merely a code, or token that stands for something else.
- In this case it is "best regards", which is plural.
-
- I just make a simple substitution: '73' instead of 'best regards'. Is
- that too difficult to comprehend?
-
- 73
-
- --Steve Hideg
- hideg@erim.org
-
- p.s. My repeater beeps and has an autopatch. My users love it, and don't
- abuse it.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 14:56:03 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!emory!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: [News] Electricity, Leukemia Studied
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CnJow6.H6B@news.Hawaii.Edu> jherman@uhunix3.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Jeffrey Herman) writes:
- >Thought this might be of interest to everyone. Note that the phrase
- >`statistically significant' was used also by the EPA and FCC in their
- >joint study concerning leukemia and high RF fields conducted here in
- >Honolulu in regard to three bcst xmtrs located in a residential
- >neighborhood.
-
- >USA TODAY Update
- >March 31, 1994
- >
- >ELECTRICITY, LEUKEMIA STUDIED:
- > A new report finds an "association" between exposure to
- >magnetic fields and leukemia. The study, in next month's American
- >Journal of Epidemiology, looked at records of more than 223,000
- >electric utility workers. It found a "statistically significant"
- >association, but no cause-and-effect relationship, between
- >exposure to magnetic fields and acute nonlymphocytic leukemia.
-
- In the Atlanta Journal, the story said that they found an excess
- of nonlymphocytic leukemia of 1 in 200,000. IE 7 cases instead
- of the expected 6 in the sample. Now I'm not a mathematician, but
- I'm not convinced that's a statistically significant change. I
- thought that probabilities on the same order as the sample size
- were considered meaningless.
-
- Gary
- --
- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
- 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
- Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 31 Mar 1994 23:09:04 MST
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!cyber2.cyberstore.ca!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!alberta!ve6mgs!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Daily Summary of Solar Geophysical Activity for 31 March
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
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-
- DAILY SUMMARY OF SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY
-
- 31 MARCH, 1994
-
- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
-
- (Based In-Part On SESC Observational Data)
-
-
- SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL ACTIVITY INDICES FOR 31 MARCH, 1994
- ---------------------------------------------------------
-
- NOTE: The intense stratospheric warming covers the polar region at 10 HPA.
- Mean zonal winds at 60N are continuously weakening and will begin an
- easterly direction at the beginning of April at 10 HPA. The
- temperature gradient is reversed from 60N and the pole in the middle
- and upper stratosphere from 30 HPA upwards and in the lower
- stratosphere during the next day. The final transition to summer
- conditions is expected to take place during April.
-
- !!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 090, 03/31/94
- 10.7 FLUX=085.0 90-AVG=102 SSN=061 BKI=2212 2321 BAI=007
- BGND-XRAY=A7.2 FLU1=5.4E+05 FLU10=1.2E+04 PKI=2212 2221 PAI=005
- BOU-DEV=016,014,008,018,013,020,012,005 DEV-AVG=013 NT SWF=00:000
- XRAY-MAX= B2.8 @ 1336UT XRAY-MIN= A5.8 @ 2305UT XRAY-AVG= A9.6
- NEUTN-MAX= +002% @ 2345UT NEUTN-MIN= -002% @ 1250UT NEUTN-AVG= +0.0%
- PCA-MAX= +0.2DB @ 2330UT PCA-MIN= -0.3DB @ 0635UT PCA-AVG= +0.0DB
- BOUTF-MAX=55341NT @ 0526UT BOUTF-MIN=55318NT @ 1843UT BOUTF-AVG=55334NT
- GOES7-MAX=P:+000NT@ 0000UT GOES7-MIN=N:+000NT@ 0000UT G7-AVG=+073,+000,+000
- GOES6-MAX=P:+121NT@ 1940UT GOES6-MIN=N:-090NT@ 0421UT G6-AVG=+090,+024,-042
- FLUXFCST=STD:085,085,083;SESC:085,085,083 BAI/PAI-FCST=010,015,025/010,020,040
- KFCST=2223 3322 3344 4333 27DAY-AP=004,005 27DAY-KP=1112 1111 1112 1123
- WARNINGS=*GSTRM;*AURMIDWRN
- ALERTS=
- !!END-DATA!!
-
- NOTE: The Effective Sunspot Number for 30 MAR 94 was 42.8.
- The Full Kp Indices for 30 MAR 94 are: 1o 1o 1+ 4o 3+ 3- 3o 3o
- The 3-Hr Ap Indices for 30 MAR 94 are: 4 4 5 26 20 13 15 15
- Greater than 2 MeV Electron Fluence for 31 MAR is: 1.0E+07
-
-
- SYNOPSIS OF ACTIVITY
- --------------------
-
- Solar activity was very low. Only minor optically
- uncorrelated B-class events were recorded this period. A limb
- event in the form of an eruptive prominence occurred on the
- west limb at S16 between 31/0601Z and 31/0735Z. Maximum radial
- extent was 0.29 solar radii. Region 7698 (S17W11) has shown
- some growth over the last 24 hours. All other regions are
- stable and quiet.
-
- Solar activity forecast: solar activity is expected to be
- very low to low. Region 7698 exhibits the best chance of
- producing C-class activity.
-
- The geomagnetic field has been at quiet to unsettled levels
- for the past 24 hours.
-
- Geophysical activity forecast: at middle latitudes, the
- geomagnetic field is expected to be mostly unsettled on day's
- one and two becoming active on day three. At high latitudes,
- the field is expected to be unsettled on day one, mostly
- active on day two with active to minor storm conditions likely
- on day three. A favorably positioned recurrent coronal hole
- feature is expected to produce the activity beginning on day
- two with active to storm conditions likely to persist through
- 11 April.
-
- Event probabilities 01 apr-03 apr
-
- Class M 01/01/05
- Class X 01/01/01
- Proton 01/01/01
- PCAF Green
-
- Geomagnetic activity probabilities 01 apr-03 apr
-
- A. Middle Latitudes
- Active 15/25/30
- Minor Storm 10/15/30
- Major-Severe Storm 05/05/10
-
- B. High Latitudes
- Active 15/25/30
- Minor Storm 10/15/35
- Major-Severe Storm 05/05/15
-
- HF propagation conditions were normal over all regions.
- Normal conditions are expected to persist through 02 April. On
- 03 April, a well-placed coronal hole is expected to begin
- elevating levels of geomagnetic and auroral activity. Minor to
- major storming is expected to accompany this disturbance over
- the ensuing days in early April. Based on recurrence, this
- disturbance could keep propagation conditions well below normal
- for most of the first two weeks in April.
-
-
- COPIES OF JOINT USAF/NOAA SESC SOLAR GEOPHYSICAL REPORTS
- ========================================================
-
- REGIONS WITH SUNSPOTS. LOCATIONS VALID AT 31/2400Z MARCH
- --------------------------------------------------------
- NMBR LOCATION LO AREA Z LL NN MAG TYPE
- 7695 S15W38 059 0000 AXX 00 001 ALPHA
- 7696 S17W73 094 0070 DSO 05 007 BETA
- 7697 N11W28 049 0000 AXX 00 001 ALPHA
- 7698 S17W11 032 0050 DRO 05 012 BETA
- 7694 N11W50 071 PLAGE
- REGIONS DUE TO RETURN 01 APRIL TO 03 APRIL
- NMBR LAT LO
- NONE
-
-
- LISTING OF SOLAR ENERGETIC EVENTS FOR 31 MARCH, 1994
- ----------------------------------------------------
- BEGIN MAX END RGN LOC XRAY OP 245MHZ 10CM SWEEP
- NONE
-
-
- POSSIBLE CORONAL MASS EJECTION EVENTS FOR 31 MARCH, 1994
- --------------------------------------------------------
- BEGIN MAX END LOCATION TYPE SIZE DUR II IV
- 31/ 0601 0735 S16W90 EPL
-
-
- INFERRED CORONAL HOLES. LOCATIONS VALID AT 31/2400Z
- ---------------------------------------------------
- ISOLATED HOLES AND POLAR EXTENSIONS
- EAST SOUTH WEST NORTH CAR TYPE POL AREA OBSN
- 72 N30W44 N08W64 N12W74 N31W49 076 ISO POS 006 10830A
- 73 S35E86 S50E61 S28W23 S20W19 347 EXT NEG 039 10830A
-
-
- SUMMARY OF FLARE EVENTS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
- ------------------------------------------------
-
- Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn 2695 MHz 8800 MHz 15.4 GHz
- ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ --------- --------- ---------
- 30 Mar: 0757 0813 0830 C1.9
- 1157 1213 1223 B1.5
- 1737 1749 1758 SF 7696 S17W59
- 2226 2230 2236 B1.1
-
-
- REGION FLARE STATISTICS FOR THE PREVIOUS UTC DAY
- ------------------------------------------------
-
- C M X S 1 2 3 4 Total (%)
- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --- ------
- Region 7696: 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 001 (25.0)
- Uncorrellated: 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 003 (75.0)
-
- Total Events: 004 optical and x-ray.
-
-
- EVENTS WITH SWEEPS AND/OR OPTICAL PHENOMENA FOR THE LAST UTC DAY
- ----------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date Begin Max End Xray Op Region Locn Sweeps/Optical Observations
- ------ ---- ---- ---- ---- -- ------ ------ ---------------------------
- NO EVENTS OBSERVED.
-
- NOTES:
- All times are in Universal Time (UT). Characters preceding begin, max,
- and end times are defined as: B = Before, U = Uncertain, A = After.
- All times associated with x-ray flares (ex. flares which produce
- associated x-ray bursts) refer to the begin, max, and end times of the
- x-rays. Flares which are not associated with x-ray signatures use the
- optical observations to determine the begin, max, and end times.
-
- Acronyms used to identify sweeps and optical phenomena include:
-
- II = Type II Sweep Frequency Event
- III = Type III Sweep
- IV = Type IV Sweep
- V = Type V Sweep
- Continuum = Continuum Radio Event
- Loop = Loop Prominence System,
- Spray = Limb Spray,
- Surge = Bright Limb Surge,
- EPL = Eruptive Prominence on the Limb.
-
-
- ** End of Daily Report **
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 13:59:08 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!darwin.sura.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!cscsun!dtiller@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Obscenity on ham bands
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- dhughes@prairienet.org (Dan Hughes) writes:
- >I just passed my no-code test last week, and have been listening to some
- >ham chatter on my SW receiver. Saturday night on 3910 kHz I heard some
- >of the most disgusting language I've encountered anywhere. One guy was
- >spouting one obscentity after another, and three other guys were laughing
- >at his inept signal and giving it right back to him. All but the
- >instigator were regularly giving their calls. Is this pretty much what I
- >have to look forward to?
-
- I know at least one of those idiots peripherially. I also know that one
- of them is a tech class licensee using phone on 80m. I wish I had one of
- those kind of tech licenses - mine says HF phone on 10m only. I wish I
- could remember their names...
- --
- David Tiller | Network Administrator | Voice: (804) 752-3710 |
- dtiller@rmc.edu | Randolph-Macon College| Fax: (804) 752-7231 |
- "Drunk, [Beowulf] slew | P.O. Box 5005 | ICBM: 37d 42' 43.75" N |
- no hearth companions." | Ashland, Va 23005 | 77d 31' 32.19" W |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 19:29:21 GMT
- From: pa.dec.com!e2big.mko.dec.com!peavax.mlo.dec.com!sttng.mlo.dec.com!reisert@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: QSL Managers Wanted - 1994 ARRL DX Contest
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Here is a long list of "interesting" callsigns we worked in the 1994
- ARRL DX contests (both CW and SSB).
-
- I am looking for any known QSL managers. If you know the manager for
- one or more stations on this list, I would appeciate it. I will be
- posting a followup message with the results.
-
- Thanks & 73 - Jim AD1C
-
- 3D2KR DA2SV LZ5W TI4/AA7JM
- 3D2LA DA2ZF LZ6C TI5RLI
- 3DA0CA DU1AK LZ6R TK5EL
- 3V8AS EA6ACC NP4Z TK5EP
- 4K2MAL EA6BH OA4CWR TK5ML
- 4M1DX EA6MQ OA4ED TM1C
- 4M2NY EA6ZY OA4EI TM2T
- 4M5A EA8AB OA4QV TM5G
- 4M5B EA8AD OD5SK TM9C
- 4N1A EA8AFJ OH0KDY TU2MA
- 4N1KT EA8BXQ OH0MM TU2XZ
- 4N1Z EA8CN OL5PLZ TU4EV
- 4N7M EA8DM OM0W TU4SUP
- 4O70X EA8PP OM2I TZ6LH
- 4O7AV EA8ZS OM3A UR6F
- 4S7DA EA9EU OM5M US5W
- 4S7EA EA9IE OM5R US8Q
- 4S7RM EA9LZ OM7M US9Q
- 4S7RO EA9UK OM8A UT2I
- 5B4ABU ED8USA OT4T UT7W
- 5B4ADA EI6S OT4V UU1J
- 5N0SVL EI7M OY1HJ UU5J
- 5V7JB EI8W P40J V21AJ
- 5X1C EL2PP P40R V26AS
- 5Z4JD EX8F P43GR V29AD
- 6E2T EX8W P49V V29NR
- 6Y5/KS0T FG5BP PJ8CW V31BW
- 6Y5IC FG5FR PJ8H V31DX
- 7P8EB FK8GS PJ9B V31LM
- 7P8EZ FM5CD PQ0Z V31ML
- 7Q7TA FM5DN PQ4B V31RL
- 7X2DG FO0HAR PR0R V31TP
- 7X2HM FP5CJ PR2R V31WW
- 7X2JF FP5RO PS0F V44KAO
- 7X2TM GB0THG PV2A V44NK
- 7Z1AB GB5DX PW2N V47WK
- 7Z2AB HC1HC PY0FM V50CM
- 8P6AF HC1JOL PZ1DY V51C
- 8P9DX HC1OT PZ1EL V51E
- 8R1/KK4WW HC1VK RA1A V7A
- 8R1/N4VA HC4MZ RK2WY VP2EEE
- 9A3B HC5AI RU0L VP2MDB
- 9A5D HG1S RU1A VP2MH
- 9A5Y HG1W RW1A VP2VF
- 9A7A HG5A RX9W VP5B
- 9G1NS HG5C S42ABF VP5E
- 9G1PW HG6Y S50C VP5P
- 9H1BT HG7C S50K VP8ON
- 9H1DE HH7PV S50L VP9GD
- 9H1EL HI8LC S50R VP9KK
- 9H1FP HI8OMA S51W VP9MZ
- 9J2FR HK3JJH/1 S53M VQ9QM
- 9K2UB HP1XBH S53O VQ9SS
- 9K2ZC HP1XQN S53V VQ9TV
- 9L2SH HP2CWB S54A VR2IH
- 9L3AC HR1ERL S54W WH6R
- 9Y4CG HR1JRR S54X WP4U
- 9Y4VU HR2BDC S56A X5BYZ
- A22DX HV4NAC S56M XA5T
- A22EX HZ1MM S57A XE1X
- A35CT I1A S57C XR1I
- A35SQ IB0C S57J YB0ARF
- A71CW IB4M S57O YB0ASI
- AH8A II2M S57U YB3OSE
- BV/OH2BH II2T/3 S57X YB6INU
- C6AAC II8R S59A YC0ARO
- C6AFV IO5A S59L YC2EWZ
- C6AGN IO7G SN1I YI9CW
- C6AHK IQ2A SN3A YL0A
- C6AHL IQ2L SP1S YN1EUG
- CE0ZIS IQ4A SU2MT YS1HCW
- CL8FN IQ6A SV0AN YS1X
- CM2DD IR0R SV1ATV YT1R
- CM2LE IR1A SV1BSX YT7A
- CM7JD IR1T SV1CEI YT7M
- CN2GF IR2W SV1DT YT7P
- CN8EA IR4G SV1JA YT9C
- CN8ST IS0R SV1NA YZ94DX
- CO2CR IU1R SV2BFN Z31ET
- CO2DZ IU2MM SV2BOH Z31GB
- CO2HA IU6F SV2YC Z31GX
- CO2KK IY0A T30JJ Z31PK
- CP1BA J69MV T5YOU Z32DR
- CP5AU JT1BV T77C Z32EO
- CQ5UW JT1M T77J Z32JA
- CR3R KG4CB T77V Z32KV
- CR8BWW KG4DX T9/PA3DZN Z32RCA
- CT3CU KH8BB T91AVW Z32ZM
- CT3FT KP2/KE2VB T91EL ZA/OK2PSZ
- CT5P KP2AD T91ELD ZA1B
- CT9M KP4CZ T91ENS ZA1MX
- CU2AE KP4RV T92X ZC4ML
- CU2AF KP4UK T94IW ZD7DP
- CU2EA KP4VA T94ON ZD8M
- CU2EL KP4VP T94US ZF2CF
- CU2QN L5P T95X ZF2ND
- CU3BP LA0T T97T ZF2RT
- CX7BF LA2O T99T ZF2WN
- CX7BV LR0DX TA2MI ZF8BS
- CX8AT LR73A TA2ZI ZK1AVY
- D2EGH LS0A TA3D ZP5CGL
- D2SA LT1N TE5T ZP5MAL
- DA0FUL LT1V TG9AJR ZP5XHM
- DA1FJ LT5F TG9NX ZP5XYE
- DA1KD LX4B TI2CC ZP6XR
- DA1ND LZ0A TI2GN ZP9XB
- DA1VC LZ5M TI2LO ZY2CP
- DA2JV LZ5R TI2VVR ZY2ZI
-
- --
- Jim Reisert AD1C Internet: reisert@mlo.dec.com
- Digital Equipment Corp. UUCP: ...decwrl!mlo.dec.com!reisert
- 146 Main Street - MLO3-6/C9 Voice: 508-493-5747
- Maynard, MA 01754 FAX: 508-493-0395
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 14:54:25 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!cs.umd.edu!zombie.ncsc.mil!admii!ovation!ramcad.pica.army.mil!mellis@@.
- Subject: Source for RF Power MOSFETS (IRF511)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I>> Can anyone tell me a source for IRF511/510 MOSFETs? Also are there other types of MOSFETs suitable saw a power of 40 or 50
- >>watts range? Where can I get them? Tks.
- >>
- >>73,
- >>Daniel
- >
- >Hell, I think Radio Shack carries the IRF511. Probably expensive though.
- >Try Digi-Key.
- ====================================
-
- Radio Shack carries the IRF-510
-
- 60 V, 3A, "On" resistance 0.6 Ohm.
-
- Part # 276-2072, cost: $1.99
-
- Source, 1993 R/S catalog. (latest I've got here).
-
- ----Mark N2WZB
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 15:01:14 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!emory!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Which HF rigs have Transverter Jacks?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1994Apr1.002144.141549@yuma> galen@picea.CFNR.ColoState.EDU (Galen Watts) writes:
- >Subject line says most of it. I know the Kenwood TS-820 has 'em and I've
- >heard the TS-430 has 'em, but I'm not sure. I'm mostly interested in
- >synthesized rigs, but any info is greatly appreciated!!!
- >Galen, KF0YJ
-
- Icom IC-735 has them, IC-725 doesn't.
-
- Gary
- --
- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
- 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
- Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 14:48:22 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!emory!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <CnG3Jt.Htw@srgenprp.sr.hp.com>, <CnI0t1.DJ@seastar.org>, <2nfbjs$ilt@hpscit.sc.hp.com>
- Reply-To : gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman)
- Subject : Re: How phasing SSB Exciters Work (Was: RF and AF speech processors)
-
- In article <2nfbjs$ilt@hpscit.sc.hp.com> rkarlqu@scd.hp.com (Richard Karlquist) writes:
- >
- >The tough part isn't the audio 90 degree shift or the RF 90 degree shift,
- >it's getting amplitude and phase matched mixers.
-
- That's easy, 7360s are almost ideal devices for this.
-
- Gary
-
- --
- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
- 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
- Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 15:22:41 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!emory!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <VBREAULT.94Mar25134216@rinhp750.gmr.com>, <Cn8ttu.AHI@news.hawaii.edu>, <2nf2sm$rt6@cosmos.nectech.com>
- Reply-To : gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman)
- Subject : Re: Voice mail on a repeater?
-
- In article <2nf2sm$rt6@cosmos.nectech.com> rbono@cosmos.nectech.com (Richard J. Bono) writes:
- > Beeps breed bad habits!
-
- No, they just don't *cure* bad habits. People can react the same way
- to a squelch crash as to a beep. I've experienced one beep system
- that *does* tend to cure bad habits, but I found it too obnoxious
- to implement. It uses twin beeps. If you key after the first beep,
- you get 10 seconds before repeater time out. If you wait for the
- second beep, you get the normal 3 minutes. The gap is for breaking
- stations to insert their callsigns. Getting everyone to patiently
- wait their turn in a conversation is a lost cause when you have
- 5 or 10 people all wanting to get their two cents in a hot discussion.
- It's the cocktail party, or beer and pizza, syndrome except that when
- several people try to talk through the repeater at once, you can't
- understand everyone. Even so, the tailgating and doubling are preferable
- to a stuffy ordered roundtable.
-
- Ideally, we'd all have duplex radios so we could do CSMA. For now,
- the best we can do is try to avoid being long winded since we may
- wind up having to repeat everything after we unkey and realize we
- were doubling for the whole 2 minutes. :-(
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- Gary
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